So far, our ballistics gelatin testing project has covered 184 different factory loads split across today’s six most popular handgun calibers: 9mm, .45 ACP, .40 S&W, .380 ACP, .38 Special, and .357 Magnum. There seems to be a disconnect where people on this thread and even perhaps the author believe that this is optimal performance compared to the 10mm which did expand and performed within spec, which is to stop within 18 inches. 10mm ammunition is hard to find and when you find it, it is often more expensive per box than 357s. WHAT? Without getting into boutique ammo, why not compare the best of both to see which is more effective (ie. For our tests, we’ve used blocks of the synthetic Clear Ballistics gelatin rather than the organic-based 10% ordnance gelatin that the FBI standards were originally based on. Sure, launching a 92 pound bullet with a 13 pound explosive warhead at 2,300 fps has some recoil, but then again I can appreciate the energy vs both the .357 and 10mm and it does much more damage to a ballistic gel block–should I ever be attacked by a block of ballistic gel.. 180 gr. all three will generate over 600 FTLB muzzle energy. Just like with most things, it's really a matter of what you intend to use your handgun for. 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You must also be a Killary lover, they all shouted at the clouds. reminds me of 7.62×25mm Tokarev from 1930’s. And if you run into that sentiment, you will usually find an argument against it following soon after. Someone here chastised me for saying negative things about this authors knowledge and writing skills. Yes, I have several pistols and shoot 3 gun with two of them that have been grealty modified for competition. I loved the 10mm, in both its full-pressure and FBI guises. What good does it do to have a gun that will have you soaking your gun in epsom salt? That may not seem like many, especially compared to the number of loads we included in our previous tests, but there simply aren’t as many hollow-point offerings available for 10mm as there are for more popular handgun calibers. 10mm pistol. most 10mm shooters i know do not use weak loaded hornady ammo. Yes, two shots but the last one penatrated the skull… not a desirable situation I wish to repeat. My G29 can even be customized to shoot 357 sig and 9mm. The forty-caliber cartridges, .40 Smith & Wesson and its longer cousin, 10mm Automatic, offer larger, heavier bullets than most pistol cartridges without sacrificing too much in the way of velocity. Nope I am not telling --- you have to watch. But the 10mm promises magnum-like power in a semi-auto platform along with all the benefits of that platform: faster reloads, more ammunition before reloading, ect. The 10mm expanded created more wound volume, so more bleeding. For defense against four-legged predators (up to and including those of the Grizzly persuasion), I load my 6″ .357 Mag with hot-loaded 180-gr Hornady XTPs. .357 Mag is awesome. Also, is the 10mm load not a defensive load? The future is looking to be good for the 10mm … What we got was a bullet that nearly doubled in diameter and violent expansion without overpenetration. USA – -(Ammoland.com)- The 10mm Auto, sometimes referred to as the “357 of the Auto Pistol World”, has experienced a resurgence of late. The reality, each caliber is most efficient at common loads with common weight pills, usually. Perhaps the XTP loads are the only ones he could find with comparable weights. Just my .02. Legal Disclaimer, Tip:click on product names above to see full test results. The standards for ideal bullet expansion have not always been as clearly defined by researchers, but for service handgun calibers, it’s reasonable to expect bullets to consistently expand to at least 150% of their original diameter (.60” for 10mm loads). Under his motto-Guns, Never Politics-he tackles firearm and reloading topics both in print and on his Mark3smle YouTube channel, where he got his start. bullet into gel already damaged by the first shot. Whether 2 or 4 legs, there are situations where you won’t be able to sit and line up shots. That would eliminate the variable associated with a revolver. While newer and better bullets have been developed for the major semi-auto service calibers over the last few decades, ammo companies have devoted comparatively few R&D resources to designing bullets specifically intended to take advantage of 10mm’s capabilities. The greater penetration was also aided by the lack of deformation of the hollow-point due to that slightly lower velocity. Two additional loads had excellent expansion but penetrated an inch or two beyond the desired 18-inch maximum depth. © 2009-2020 LuckyGunner, LLC. The short version is that we fired five rounds of each load into a block of Clear Ballistics synthetic gelatin arranged in line wit… in the test, huh? Despite increasing demand, 10mm pistols are hard to find and they tend to cost a premium when found. Again, the 10mm Auto is no weakling; it’s used to drop many of the largest and most dangerous animals on the planet. It has been argued that even changing grips is a “modification.” As a gunsmith, I have to stay up to date with the state laws… a real challenge here! Carried the .357 for years as my duty weapon. If you’ve seen our other semi-auto caliber tests, you might remember that we used sub-compact pistols with barrels around 3.5 inches while the G20 is a service-size handgun. With that question in mind, it was time for my favorite past time—a fun ballistics gel test. So I have loads for 357 that are as weak as a single 000 buck moving about 700 fps and no louder than a primer, to 38 spl for not tearing up fur on a smaller coyote to a heavy 357 for deer/pig, shot capsules for snake, etc. These tests are inherently flawed from a scientific standpoint simply because of using the same ballistic gel block for all of the bullet tests. Since it was first introduced in the early 1980s, the popularity of 10mm has fluctuated, never quite reaching mainstream status but also avoiding the realm of forgotten oddball cartridges known only to handloading enthusiasts. Designed to best the external ballistics of the .45 ACP, the 10mm easily surpasses the venerable round and the .357 Mag. 1. It would be hard to pick a winner but from my experience .357 mag has the edge. After all the good Lord provided me with two hands. Next time try a longer barrel, like in a G20. For the money I’m going to go with the 10 for firepower. The thumbnail photos of the expanded bullets can be enlarged by clicking on them. This standard has been in use by FBI researchers since the late 1980s, and we’ve highlighted the desired range on our penetration graph in the chart below. Still waiting for my comment which was written this morning to show up. will penetrate 4inches of wood and 10 inches of gelatin. As you found. 10mm sales cratered, but I refused to shift with the Bureau this time. That limits how much lead and powder can be on board. For a defensive weapon against two-legged predators, I’ll stick with my .45 autos. The 357 is proper…10mm not so much. Same concept as buying a 357, which you can tame down to 38 loads. If i could have only one, it would be mt R8 Scadium Swat team shield leaders revolver. In any case, penetration tests should be performed with flat… Read more », Both of these calibers are great and are here to stay…..But for me the Glock 29 in 10mm is one of my favorites as a backup when bow hunting, hiking, fishing, etc. The 10mm penetration was around 16 inches. Distance shooting with a revolver is easier, too.… Read more ». I already own a .357 revolver and two .45ACP pistols. A Coonan .357 full size or ‘çommander’ size against a similar Coonan 10mm would have been the ideal test in terms of auto vs auto, Or a Coonan full size against a 1911 in 10mm, both with five in barrels. Physical properties of the two mediums differ in some ways, but they typically provide similar results when testing for penetration and expansion characteristics of handgun ammo. I have both and found that jacketed hollow points are only about 80% in every pistol I’ve ever owned except, for a heavily modified 1911. But in 2018, demand is higher and the 10mm is finally getting its due as an excellent hunting and defensive cartridge. I carried a .45ACP off duty and was regularly chastised as it was too “military” for off duty work….hahaha I have deer hunted with my .357’s, but prefer my .44 mag with 200 grain Silvertips. The block was covered with four layers of denim. The 10mm didn’t die though, and I dare say it has seen a small resurgence recently in the shooting community. However, if you choose the 10 you gain the inherit advantages of automatic pistols, greater ammunition capacity and simpler reloads. Using Ballistic Gel to Compare. Our 10mm test gun is a Glock 20 Gen 4 with a 4.6-inch barrel. This is as close as I could get in factory guns and ¼ of an inch won’t make much difference in velocity. Depending on who you ask, slight over-penetration is not always considered a deal-breaker, and these loads might still be worth considering for self-defense use. One of those two, the 180 gr Federal Trophy Bonded, is a soft point bullet designed to expand on impact but it failed to do so, possibly due to the heavy clothing barrier. Cool video for Glock 20 fans. 180 or 200 grain 10mm vs. 158 grain .357)? In seventh place (and a fairly distant seventh, according to our sales data) comes our next test caliber: 10mm Auto. Optimal 10mm Uses. just wait a few seconds and pull the trigger again. Evolving out of the .40 G&A, a cartridge developed with the impetus of Jeff Cooper back in the 1970s, it sprang onto the scene in 1983 in the Bren Ten and with ammo from Norma. 10mm Ballistic Gel Test with Hornady AmmoRange Hot - March 16, 2014 […] For the updated ballistic test click here […] American Derringer in 10mm Auto, - November 5, 2014 […] I got several email requests to do a ballistic test using a few of the 10mm rounds I have tested in the past. Five shot velocity average: 1061fps Gel Temperature: 73 degrees. The main reason is that sub-compact 10mm pistols are just not very common. I haven’t carried a .357 revolver in years myself but that would be my choice if I was going to do it. The better overall gun, in my opinion, would be the 10mm purely because it’s an automatic. If you compare penetration without first comparing sectional density, you are an idiot. We’ll never get divorced. 7 years ago. Is that correct? That’s a rule that needs the context of range, level and kind of threat, and the type of ammo. Revolvers don’t have that problem and magnum cartridges have been the mainstay of handgun power since the beginning. The size and shape of the round must fit into a practical grip. It may be a long way from cracking the top five, but 10mm is more popular today than ever before and we’ve had numerous requests to add this caliber to our gelatin tests. However, it appears that the 357 Magnum’s damage was greater for a longer stretch of the wound than the 10. It seems like the extra penetration of the .357 mag round might be desirable for larger game. Of course the 357, under these circumstances, penetrated more. Some of their tactical people still use it. Magic guns and magic bullets. That is much when we are talking about handgun velocities. Springfield is offering both 4.5 and 5.5 length 10mm with its XD platform. Unfortunately ballistic gel is relatively expensive. Many common 10mm loadings are weakly loaded compared to the round’s true potential and many off the shelf brands are seldom more powerful than the 40 S&W. The Clear Ballistics gel is far less labor intensive to work with and allows us to test many more loads than would be practical for us to do with the traditional ordnance gel. Or 180 grain 10mm which is widely available ? The 10mm vs. 357 contest isn’t Mayweather vs McGregor. Terril Hebert is a firearm writer native to south Louisiana. Like with any boxing match, there is more to the story and the opponents that is sometimes not taken into consideration. I am also biased towards the Coonan Mk 2, Which I consider to be the best large pistol I have ever owned, fully ported which made it excellant bowling pin gun, the down side was it sounded more like a howitzer, no one wanted to shoot on the range at the same time and in New Zealand we cannot use them off the range ie for hunting Most 10mm expanding hollow-point factory loads utilize bullets that are actually designed for .40 S&W (a cartridge originally derived from “light” 10mm loads). After shooting both rounds through the chronograph, I was convinced that the 10mm would outperform the 357, given its velocity advantage with the same weight of bullet. History. The 10 performed as advertised and its extra velocity helped to flatten out the projectile. Gun calibers… Read more », This is a good point because equal bullet weight with different diameter means different sectional density. Handgun Calibers Comparison: From Smallest to Largest [2020] The 357 performed better with superior penetration. Magnum revolvers were favored by law enforcement for many years since until they were retired for increasingly reliable, higher capacity semi-automatic pistols. Anything to get another article out… Media, Only missed one thing, Coonan 357 automatic pistol . The velocity of each load was measured with a chronograph. In the aftermath of the 1986 Miami Shootout, the FBI sought to replace their 357 Magnum revolvers and lower-powered 9mm auto-pistols with the 10mm. The Bureau summarily executed the 10mm for the even newer .40 Smith & Wesson: FBI 10mm ballistics in a 9mm-sized pistol. I know some worry about over-penetration but I over-penetration is OVER rated. For you revolver fanatics and for those that asked for a revolver comparison of 357 Magnum and 10MM, well you got it. How about throwing in a good .45ACP into the mix with a Hornady 200 grain XTP bullet? While hunting, I’m more prone to take a rabbit or coyote than a black bear (I live in FL). (Oh wait, there was no .45 Mag. The 10mm (or the 10mm Auto) was the brainchild of none other than Col. Jeff Cooper of Gunsite Academy fame. Mike. It looks to me that the .357 Magnum came out on top.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vu5NCcEm8qs As a practical matter it’s rather like comparing a 460 Ford and a 454 Chevy. It promised more power than the 9mm while being faster to reload than the revolvers in standard service at the time. Terril has a soft spot for ballistics testing, pocket pistols, and French rifles. How much smaller does the author think the bullet diameter of the “necked down” .40 S&W round is than the 10mm? Thank you for the info .. Hmmm, why NO mention of the .357Sig round? It makes my head hurt to think people write crap like this and others pay good money to print it, buy it, and pass it along. 4.) Would love to see the same comparison with 6″ barrels. The 10mm has the ability to shoot heavier bullets that should, by momentum, penetrate further and cause more disruption. I added a second block, which caught the follow-up projectile. Clicking on any of the column headers will sort the chart by the attribute in that column. While the 158 grain weight is fairly standard for a 357, the 155 grain bullet used in the 10mm is slightly light in its typical range. The Buffalo Bore load clocked in about 90 fps slower, but still at a higher velocity than what is typical of most heavy commercial 10mm loads produced today. Here in Kalifornia, it is the kiss of death. and closes in on the power of the .41 Mag., and does so in a service-sized semi-automatic pistol. Here’s a side-by-side comparison of the 10mm and 45. So if you want to compare the results from our .380, 9mm, .40 S&W, or .45 ACP tests to the 10mm results below, just keep in mind that the 10mm has an “unfair advantage.” At some point in the future, we may re-test the other calibers using service size pistols and we might even come back around to 10mm and run some short barrel tests, but there are a few other calibers we’d like to test first. Hornady offer’s their Custom line with a 158 grain XTP bullet for the 357 Magnum and a 155 grain XTP for the 10mm. You can’t miss fast enough so magazine capacity is a non issue. You can find 357 Magnum revolvers readily—new and used. So no, I don’t hate semi-autos… Read more ». The 10mm auto cartridge with a height of 0.992" has an average speed of 1199 fps from a 6" barrel and has an average 546 foot pounds per square inch of energy, while the 40 Smith & Wesson has a height of 0.85" travels around 1074 fps from a 6" barrel and has an average 423 foots pounds per square inch. I will stick with my G20, with 16 rounds in it. Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to a particular manufacturer, bullet weight, or j 1911 design with 7+1 or 6+1 with a 5 or 4 ” barrel, I have the glock S&W 40 and 686 6” so I win, I have an AMT .45 Win. I do wound ballistic workshops for a living and shoot a lot of gelatin, made, calibration verified and shot to the FBI protocol. It simply is not practical to compare it to a run of the mill Glock or Smith. Distance: 10 feet. Chronograph: PACT 1 XP with inferred sky screens. I have been shooting 357 Mags since 1967. the average 10mm shooter like myself shoot a glock 20 with a 4 inch barrel or 5 to 6 inch 1911’s. Since its development in the 1980s, the 10mm found sudden popularity only to stagnate and shrink, but now the 10 is back with more pistols and ammunition than ever before. But sub-compacts don’t seem to be very popular among 10mm fans, so we went with the full-size G20. Biased test and waste of time. It was laughable, but then again he was from the Bonnie and Clyde days, still hanging on. Nice try; no cigar. The year was 1935 and it became the most powerful handgun cartridge of its time with a 158 grain bullet traveling at about 1400 feet per second. This is due, in part, to a lack of advancement in 10mm bullet technology. If you’re interested in all the gritty details of how we conducted these tests, you might want to take a look at the test protocols and procedures outlined in the article accompanying our first batch of ballistics gel testing from back in 2015. The 10mm fell into obscurity with few pistols and few ammunition makers producing for the round. Sectional density is the factor that should be constant not weight when looking at penitration. I wonder if the over penetration is better against larger animal bone. 10mm Auto Self-Defense Ammo Ballistic Gel Tests By Chris Baker So far, our ballistics gelatin testing project has covered 184 different factory loads split across today’s six most popular handgun … Revolver failures are not as rare as you make them out to be. 10mm all day long… With the Glock 20/29 platform, you can also shoot 40 s&w through it. I am biased however owned a .357 revolver but I love my BIG 10. The Glock sports a 3.77 inch barrel vs the 4 inch barrel on the Smith. I my self like both rounds , and would not 2nd guess either of them… I would ask what are using it for ? This is exactly why I am using a 357 Mk 2 Coonan, best of both worlds, Try those tests with true ‘Full Power’ 10mm like Underwood or Double Tap maybe even Winchester’s ST. Those results will surely change. 2. I also love target and squirrel shooting with a highly modified buckmark. I understand you were trying to match bullet weights for both… but I really don’t think may people carry that heavy a bullet… Read more ». No matter what platform you choose, I doubt you will be disappointed. They have faster muzzle velocity, muzzle energy and a faster velocity. There are also 7 and 8 round 357 revolvers like S&W’s TTR8 swat revolver (used by police holding shields because of potential semi-automatics malfunctions where the action can get hung up on the shield). The 357 Magnum and the 10mm Auto come in a variety of loadings, but the larger 40 caliber bullet of the 10mm affords it somewhat heavier projectiles in factory loads. S&W 686 7Shot Unfluted Cylinder, 7inch Barrel S&W 610 Classic 6Shot Unfluted Cylinder, 6inch Barrel Surprise Ending - Watching it all the way through most of you will be interested in the additional comparison I added in. 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